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Post by Benjamin Wade on Mar 29, 2009 19:17:05 GMT -4
Hey guys, well first off, congratulations on making the Final 2. I can honestly say that I think you both played great games, and both of you have a shot at my vote and I honestly have no idea as to who I will be voting for. I have stuff to ask both of you so let's get to my questions.
Matty, this may suprise you but as of now, you're currently in the lead in the race for my vote, but your answers to my questions could put you out of the running completely. Matty basically as of now I kinda get the fact that you were the underdog and the secret mastermind, but the thing is you really seem to be confident in your social game, which actually is a bad thing because I think your social game was actually weak be myself and other's all found you annoying at times and extremely hard to talke to. As well, I personally hate liers, and you not only lied to me, you lied to me about lieing, saying you'd tell me if you were voting me out if you were going to, but when you had the chance you didn't. That's something that really turned me off.
Shawn, you have a lot of ground to make up buddy because right now Matty currently has my vote. The problem I have with you is that I feel as though the only reason you're in the finals is because you won Immunities and brought goats along the way with you in order just to beat them in the Immunity Challenges. I've talked to you many times about challenges and such and you always called Erin and Matty weak, so it's almost like you took advantage of them in order not to use any strategy to get yourself to where you are. Also another part that kinda bugs me is that for strategy it was always "Kelly and you" making decisions, but it always seemed as though Kelly made the decisions and you just gave your stamp of approval. Whether that's how it happened or not, that's how it came off, and that's not good.......at all.
Now I have some questions for both of you: Matty - I want you to list every lie you told in this game, why you told, and if you regret it. I want to know exactly how you played this game, and include every little dirty detail.
Also I want to know how you felt when Colby and Brendan went one after the other. I know they both had alliances with you and I want to know what you did when you found out they were out of the game and how you adjusted your strategy.
Shawn - I want to know why you chose to bring Erin to the final 3 instead of Jaime. Was it really just because you could beat her in the challenge?
I want to know exactly which decisions YOU made in this game. I don't want any that even involved Kelly's opinion, just your's.
Both - I want to know exactly what happened the round I left. This is mostly directed to Shawn, but I'd like to hear both of your views on what happen.
Shawn - Shawn after I was voted out Matty told me you orchestrated the whole thing. I want to know if this is true? If so, do you actually think I'm stupid enough just to vote for you in the finals because you didn't vote me out, and why were you such a coward, not going along with your own plan?
Matty - Finally, I want to know what you think of Shawn and Kelly's alliance. Before Kelly was voted off, did you see them as two seperate players, or an inseperable duo?
Once again congratulations guys, I'm looking forward to seeing your answers.
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Post by Shawn Cohen on Mar 30, 2009 16:33:57 GMT -4
Hey Coach and Thanks! Shawn, you have a lot of ground to make up buddy because right now Matty currently has my vote. The problem I have with you is that I feel as though the only reason you're in the finals is because you won Immunities and brought goats along the way with you in order just to beat them in the Immunity Challenges. I've talked to you many times about challenges and such and you always called Erin and Matty weak, so it's almost like you took advantage of them in order not to use any strategy to get yourself to where you are. Also another part that kinda bugs me is that for strategy it was always "Kelly and you" making decisions, but it always seemed as though Kelly made the decisions and you just gave your stamp of approval. Whether that's how it happened or not, that's how it came off, and that's not good.......at all.Ok theres a lot a want to say about this. I did not have to win any challenges and would have still been here.. That is why i do not understand people that say all you did was win. I played this game planned everybody's vote out and then on top of that won immunities. Immunity was always an extra. And i happened to do well on them. The last two challenges were not close Matty was only close becuase i was telling him the answers. I feel like at this point when people look at me all they see is a robot and i do not want them to. I do not get it like i guess i could have not won challenges and then i would be looked at better idk what do you think? To be honest Erin and Matty are weaker then me when it comes to challenges just becuase i want to win. But i have seen in previous what Erin is capable of and she could have beaten me without a doubt but i did not let her this time. And in no way feel i took advantage on their "weakness" and take them to the end? Who else was i going to take to the end? You, the person who would have definately won if gotten to the end. Isn't it smart to take the weaker physical players to the end? That is just my opnion but they were not weak overall players just weak in a physical aspect. Also this whole Kelly think you talked abotu so did JR. I do not know where it came from. All of our decisions were mutual i do not see how Kelly seemed more of the master mind. Mayeb it's becuase you both have known her for longer but she can admit it, it was all mutual. And even if it was not i do not see why that matters becuase i am not sitting her agaisnt Kelly i am here agaisnt Matty who i did that to. I made all the decisions, well most of them, and he gave the "stamp of approval" Ok now to the questions! Shawn - I want to know why you chose to bring Erin to the final 3 instead of Jaime. Was it really just because you could beat her in the challenge?Being real i actually was more afraid of Erin in the final challenge. In another game we were in i took erin to the end knowing i could beat her and then she killed me. The reason why i wanted Jaime gone was well first off. Matty claims he had erin around his finger which is not true at all ask erin... And also Matty said he had Jaime wrapped around his finger. I got the chance to speak to Erin about this and not Jaime. So i felt that if either of them won the final challenge i was more likely to get brought by Erin then Jaime. But again no. I did not take Erin becuase i felt like i could beat her. I want to know exactly which decisions YOU made in this game. I don't want any that even involved Kelly's opinion, just your's.Well there are a few, like i said before me and Kelly were a great duo so everything was pretty much made together. But things that were not was, I actually came up with the plan to oust Sierra even though Kelly went along with it i knew they were friends so i know i said that before she did. All the hard decisions i made after Kelly left were completely on my own. But before that we always said ok who goes and we both came up with the same names. But probably the biggest thing that i haven't told anyone about is that the round Kelly went. I had no clue that J-R would use his idol, but i know i am responsible for Kelly's departure. I told J-R over and over again that i was annoyed and sick of Kelly. So to cover this up, when Erin came to me and asked who to vote. I quickly said Kelly. This was to cover my own butt. But then i began to think becuase i mentioned to Kelly that round should we vote for someone else just in case he does use it. And she kept saying that he will not use it. She also thought that it would be Matty to go if this did happen. So i decided to nullify J-R's vote, knowing that she had her extra vote plus Erin's vote that if for some odd reason J-R did use his idol she would be going home. Not at all did i want this but i was ready becuase it was a way for me to be clean of the blood but also knock out the biggest threat in this whole game. Which is the biggest reason why i am here at this moment. So Kelly if you read this i am sorry but it had to be done. I hope that helps to show you what i did Coach. Both - I want to know exactly what happened the round I left. This is mostly directed to Shawn, but I'd like to hear both of your views on what happen.To be honest i was not planning on voting you out right away like i told you. Jaime was undecided and told me it was my decision becuase at that point i knew you were voting for Erin and Erin and Matty were voting for you. But then i talked to you and told you numerous times to watch Jaime. just to see where your head was at and you kept playing this attitude like i do not care if i go. Which upset me becuase why would i keep someone here like you who said if i go i go over Erin who wanted to be here and that is why I told Jaime to vote you out. I also felt as though i have known Erin for about a year and we actually know each other basically in real life and even though we may have not been alligned we always watch each others backs so this was another time where i has her back. Shawn - Shawn after I was voted out Matty told me you orchestrated the whole thing. I want to know if this is true? If so, do you actually think I'm stupid enough just to vote for you in the finals because you didn't vote me out, and why were you such a coward, not going along with your own plan?This first of all is an example of what i did in the game. Matty told you i orchestrated it all meaning i did it by myself which is true so thanks Matty for the credit . Yes it is true like i said up there i knew myself and Jaime were the swing votes and i eventually went with you. Now onto the you calling me a coward. I first off was not a coward becuase i would have voted you out but i needed to set myself up for the end game. My plan, which i regret sorry Jaime, was to Set jaime up agaisnt Matty basically saying to Matty that Jaime voted out Erin to break up the bond they had. But in the end this came out anyway and Matty still trusted me which was good. And no you are not stupid but i did not vote out Erin for a jury vote i voted out Erin becuase i was trying to play a step ahead which in a game like this always bites you in the butt which i completely regret i remember i did not decide until right before the deadline. Knowing that you were leaving i did not know what to do. But in the end i decided to play dumb and go with my head and not my heart and try to outplay everyone else. Which like i said did not work, but that is the only move in this game that i feel was dumb. Ok well thanks Coach i would be happy to answer anymore questions if you have any and i hope you got to see how i played the game.
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Post by Matty Whitmore on Mar 30, 2009 20:25:58 GMT -4
Ok , hey coach, thank you for your questions man. I really like you personaly dude and if I had played with my emotions I most definatly wouldve tryed to work with you. But in previous games I had trusted people I had thought to be my allys and had gotten backstabbed in those past games, because I let my emotion guide what i did sometimes, so when i came into this game I swore to myself I wouldnt allow that to happen and it was mighty hard for me to trust anybody in this game, i did end up trusting a few,as you have to do to get far in this game.
Anyways before I answer your questions im compelled to comment on what shawn said first, because theres a few things he said that are just not true.
Ok: He said "I did not have to win any challenges and would have still been here.. "
Also in the Kelly vote off, I had found out about kelly having a extra vote against her at the upcomign TC ,and i went to erin with this information. You know how erin usually always voted with me right? well i voted JR to continue my strategy of making shawn and kelly think i was totally with them because at the time those and a few others were in power. And I knew if kelly weas voted off it would hlep me get closer to shawn and take out the biggest threat in the game.
So, I voted with the others against JR to do as i said, which was continue to camoflauge myself in with shawn kelly and those in power through them to gain there trust and make to make sure i didnt become a target and could get information from shawn in which to work with erin on.
The truth ,shawn, is that me and erin came up with the plan to vote off kelly, coach tipped JR off about the idol and kelly and coach wanted me to be the fall guy so they had coach vote for me, i had a feeling JR was going to use his idol so me adn erin talked and i had her vote against kelly, to make sure it was 2 votes against kelly with her previous challenge vote against her, to make sure IF someone voted for me or erin, and JR used the idol, that i would be safe and kelly would leave, and thats exactly what happened. Shawn you had absolutly nothing to do with that as much as you think you do, wich makes me laugh really.
Alot of what you claimed to do is not the truth, maybe its your truth, but I was involved in basically everything you talked about and the reason i agve my stamp of approval alot was because you basically named the people i was going to target anyway, so I did the smart thing and made it seem like you were calling the shots and in power so you would consider me as weak, as you are saying you do. In challenges , yes, im weak, strategically, you are weak and I played a great Strategic and psychological game.
Also...Nobody has brought up the fact that You made a big BIG strategic mistake by taking me over erin. Jamie even said it! "If you want to win, take erin" ....but you didnt! People should see that as a huge strategic mistake as I do!
Anyways,coach i wanted to add that about shawns questions and to clear up some of the things he embellished to let you know the truth, and now I will work on your specific questions ,expect them up soon tonight. :-)
NOT TRUE ...myself,jamie and erin were going to vote him off at the final 4, ill explain it in my upcoming answers more.
Also, I never said I had them wrapped around my finger, i said me jamie and erin were going to vote you off at the final 4, stop lying shawn! I never said i was manipulating them!
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Post by Matty Whitmore on Mar 30, 2009 20:45:22 GMT -4
PS: I knew you were lying to me about the jamie voting for erin lie because i matched things up but acted like i didnt care for strategic reasons, to be honest, i didnt fully trust you shawn...ill repeat, had you not won the f4 immunity ,myself jamie and erin were going to vote you off, you can doubt it all you want,but ask jamie and erin,theyll tell you themselves! And I worked with them, i never said i had them wrapped aroudn my finger, you totally lied about that and put words in my mouth. So i felt before I answered the questions that I needed to call out shawn on the lies and to let the truth be known.
Infact sahwn, when we discovered your lie about jamie voting erin, me and jamie talked it over and that encited the plan for your vote off wich jamie was very enthusiastic about which erin was as well. So shawn, you did need to win the immunitys, and i wouldnt have made the strategic mistake you made in taking me had i won the final challenge, i wouldve taken erin. You made a BIG strategic mistake in picking me over erin to go to the f2 with you!
(( Coach you questions are being worked on and they will be the first i post ,then i will finish work on kellys and JRs after i post the answers to you, i just felt i needed to say the things above to rebuke the falsehoods of shawns story. ))
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Post by Shawn Cohen on Mar 30, 2009 21:33:28 GMT -4
Matty... Worry about your own game please i know how i played my game so please just stop.. I do not take DAYS to answer my questions anyway it is disgusting..
I've told you this you just say nonsense.. Like it makes no sense and you try to act nice but everyone sees through it i just do not get you.
I wanted to vote you out SO MUCH. And i never did becuase you said you adored me and all that...
It was not a strategical mistake picking you over erin becuase you did not play a better game then Erin. You played the weak card. You say you are so strong yet you should none of it. I want to win this and was the best player as you can see. I played a fantastic strategical game no matter what you say becuase i know who i am. Worry about yourself not me. PLEASE.
My stories are not "falsehoods" becuase you do not know AT ALL. So i cannot WAIT to hear your stories so i can show every little falsehood that you think you played this game when in reality all you do was latch on to me and hid behind me the whole time.
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Post by Matty Whitmore on Mar 30, 2009 22:22:11 GMT -4
i made it seem like i adored you shawn ,SO you would keep me thinking im week. My strategy worked and you were lying about certain things, so ill just bring it up in the official answers, but that is a legit comment additional to the answers coming up for coaches questions. And I am worrying about myself,and when you lie about a situation that involves me and i know the truth, im gonna say it, you NEEDED immunity both int eh final 4 and final 3, you said you didnt need immunity, and that was just wrong. We would have voted you out and thats a fact. Anyways im working on my official answers to his questions but that was part of my answer/comments to his question while i work on the formal questions.
And shawn, your grasping at straws because you follow kelly the whole way and i made you feel like you were in control mostly, but you werent, i psychologically outsmarted and outwitted you,man!
ANyways, this matters alot in the outcome of the gmae because people need to know the truth and when your lying about events in the game, or think it was something else then it really was, im gonna correct you on it if i know what it is, and in this case I did because i was heavily involved in it with jamie and erin. Thats just a fact and it matters a whole hell of alot shawn. Also the fact that strategically you made a huge mistake in taking me over erin,but i made you think that i was your "follower" ,which i totally wasnt, so youd take me to the finals if you won out in challenges cause i knew of how good you were in the challenges, but you most definatly needed to have win those, i didnt need to win any challenges, i used my psychological strategy to help me get here. ANyways......that matters, and ill mention this stuff in coaches official questions as well.
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Post by Shawn Cohen on Mar 31, 2009 16:16:46 GMT -4
Matty i am not lying....
"you NEEDED immunity both int eh final 4 and final 3, you said you didnt need immunity, and that was just wrong. We would have voted you out and thats a fact. "
Ok and i won immunity so that was good gameplay on my part and you do not know what would have happened if i did not win you do not know.
You just wish you had 100% control and you know you always did not me and Kelly brought you into OUR alliance that had nothing to do with you. You say you like "snuggled" up to us when we hated you the whole time.. The way you talk is just annoying to lots of people. It's the truth
So answer your own questions becuase if you are so confident in your own gameplay then you should not try and bring mine down.
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Post by Matty Whitmore on Mar 31, 2009 16:39:51 GMT -4
lol shawn I worked myself into your alliance by acting like i was weak and had no other options, wich you and kelly bought, so my strategy did totally work! And im going to address to social part of annoying people in addresssing coaches questions...
BTW jsut so you know the true reason as to why its taken my this long to get my answers out to kelly jr and coach...:
My sister ,3 days ago went into surgery to remove cancer from her ovaries and i was over there with her most the time, shes recovering and gonna come home tomarrow so ill be able to work full time on the answers today.
I didnt say this before because i was worried that the jury members would just assume i was using it as an excuse,but its the truth. So Shawn, keep judging, and as much as you thought you were in control....you werent....thats why im gonna put you in the pity award" catagory in kellys questions cause you thought you had total control but didnt, and ill explain it in my answers to kellys questions, right now im working on finishing coaches.
So why dont you get the facts before you judge as to why its taken some time for me to answer the questions? lol im not getting as mean as you are, im simply stating fact and your getting pissed because you know im revealing the truth wich will hurt your ability to win this game!
COACH - your answers are on the way im working in this forum on them as we speak!
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Post by Shawn Cohen on Mar 31, 2009 21:45:20 GMT -4
Well Matty just tell us that the first time before you say it's coming i am sorry and will pray for your sister trully
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Post by Matty Whitmore on Apr 1, 2009 18:07:16 GMT -4
also: just to make sure coach knows im not done completing his final 2 questions and the lie list...ill post waht i posted at the top of the previous post:
[glow=red,2,300]Hey coach! I'm sorry for taking so long, i explained the IRL emergency situation as to why it took so long, in the general board thread on the main page of this board. ALSO , this is Part 1 of your answers, theres two questions still to be answered but I wanted to post this to get something up so that you knew I was/am working hard on it and that the rest will be up a little later on today.[/glow]
So dont worry the rest of the answers are coming coach, then kellys and jrs and jamie and erins in no particular order,ill fly through them tonight as soon as i complete the final questions of yours and the lie list you asked me for.
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Post by Matty Whitmore on Apr 2, 2009 17:00:47 GMT -4
[glow=red,2,300]Hey coach! I'm sorry for taking so long, i explained the IRL emergency situation as to why it took so long, in the general board thread on the main page of this board. ALSO , this is Part 1 of your answers, theres two questions still to be answered but I wanted to post this to get something up so that you knew I was/am working hard on it and that the rest will be up a little later on today.[/glow]
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Anyway's I really appreciate your questions and am eager to answer them honestly and truthfully as the lying part of this game is over. But obviously Shawn is still trying to lie about his game play to try and beat me in this game, so i will also be defending myself against the falsehoods that he has been stating on certain situations in the game. And you will know the entire truth about me and shawn's true actions, since he isnt being 100 percent honest, by reading my answers. So thank you for your questions...and here come your answers to them brotha.. ::smiles:: -------------------------------------------------------
First off before i start this....
Yes I might have lied to some people in this game, but one thing youll see is that I was overwhelmingly loyal to my true ally's and I protected them...like sierra ,colby brendan ,sydney and erin early in the game and jamie down the road in the merge.
Ok...ill start from round 1 to here , so everything will be in order.
[glow=red,2,300]Lie #1: (TC #2) - My first lie was to paloma in the 2nd round of this game. She wanted to go after my ally at the time, sierra, and I lied to her saying i wouldnt vote her off and acted like i was with her to vote off sierra....Instead....i went behind her back to everyone else in our tribe and let sierra know paloma was trying to get her out and I orchistrated her vote off! [/glow]
[glow=red,2,300](Between rounds 4 and 5) Lie #2:[/glow] I lied to shawn and kelly when the tribe merge happened, telling them id stick with them to the end to gain favor with them and get into the inner circle of power ,after the other new tribe started picking off my old tribe mates 1 by 1 i realized how I was going to have to play this game to get to the end, and I played out my strategy very well i believe, or I wouldnt be here at the end,would I? :-)
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[glow=red,2,300](Still working on the lie list wich will be finished soon in the hour, other then the lie list, everything else is complete!)[/glow]
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Ok this is a great question that ive been wanting to explain forever, thank you for asking it coach. Ok, when Colby,sierra and Brendan left, all of which were ally's of mine, I realized I had to go from playing "the leader" role in my alliance....to playing "the underdog role" to act weak and kiss ass to those like shawn and Kelly whom i didnt trust but knew at that time they probably had the most power. So I did and said whatever it took for them to think they could just use my vote for whatever they want and then get rid of me later on because they viewed me as weak. In challenges, i knew I couldn't beat a few of you, so I relied on my strategy. I never needed immunity, you needed twice in the final 4 and final 4, me jamie and erin were gonna vote you off,Shawn, at final 4, and had me or erin won the final 3, we would have taken eachother over you. That's just the truth of the matter!
I didn't trust you half as much as you thought I did , Shawn, and that is attributed to the strategy I played against Shawn and Kelly to be able to overcome all the odds and go from out of power and outnumbered to in power, which i started to feel in power at the final 6,final 5 when myself and Erin's strategic move got Kelly voted off. it wasn't an accident, it was a calculated move because I had a strong hunch at JR would use his idol as he seemed very suspicious and worried to be in his talks with me,like he was in danger, so that's when i went to Erin with the info of Kelly having a extra vote against her and old Erin to vote for Kelly to make sure that if JR uses his idol, that its Kelly who goes and not one of us potentially , as you (coach) and Kelly were trying to have happen. ;-)
This is also important to explain: At the vote off of Kelly. I knew everyone but JR and Erin was going to vote JR off. And had i not voted with shawn and them they wouldve been able to see how I was playing and see my strategie ,and I wouldnt have been able to do alot of the things that I did strategically, without them knowing had I voted against them in that situation and not against JR.
I had a good hunch JR might very well use to idol. I know it was you,coach, who hinted to JR about what was going on and you voted for me hoping that everyone else voted for JR and that I would be the one to go!
Well I also considered that scenario big time about JR using the idol and made sure i had a backup plan while still allowing me to keep my "spy" identity covered up with shawn and kelly to make them think i was with them and would do whatever they wanted, which was just my strategy to get them to think i was harmless and could be used by them and could get info from them that could help me with my own strategie with erin, and my other allys that point in the game,like jamie who was just becoming a true ally of mine at that point.
Shawn let me know about Kelly's previous vote she got from the challenge before the TC that round. And that's an example of how I was able to use Shawn to get the information I needed, like how Kelly had a vote against her already so I could have Erin vote for Kelly and make sure 2 votes were against Kelly incase someone voted for me or Erin, and i was right!
Anyway's, here's a more complex explanation of it: When I learned of what Shawn told me about Kelly having a vote already in the TC, i went to Erin. You know how Erin usually always votes with me right? Well I made a strategic decision to vote for JR, and make Shawn and Kelly and them feel I was still "wrapped around their finger" ...or so they thought....and I had Erin vote against Kelly to make sure that if JR did use his idol, that Kelly would be voted off because she was the biggest threat in the game in my opinion. I think its funny how Shawn is trying to take credit for it when he didn't want that to happen at all, he would've rather me went....but my hunch was right, JR did use the idle, and me having Erin to vote for Kelly on top of the vote she already had that some didn't know about, it gave her 2 votes which I felt would be enough get her out if JR used his idle, and luckily not only was it enough to get her out, but it saved me as coaches vote was aimed at trying to get me out, but i was one step ahead of that coach. :-)
I want to make sure everyone knows about this because i feel myself and Erin were the people that were heavily behind Kelly's vote off, it was not just an accident! And with Kelly leaving it opened my strategy up even further to get in closer with Shawn, for Shawn to want to stick with me more,thinking, as he's already said to you, that I was weak and I obviously played off of that. I also obviously played off the "oh whoa is me, I'm helpless ,I wouldn't be here if it weren't for you Shawn!" card tremendously well and he completely bought it! (I'm referring to Shawn.)
I've learned with people that have egos like Kelly and Shawn do that if you let them think they came up with certain ideas or let them think they are in control of you, it allows you to be able to know what they are doing at all times and if it conflicts with what I wanted,i would've done differently ,but for the most part he suggested what i was going to suggest so i just kept quiet and acted as if it was his idea and let him think it was all his idea to feel a sense of power.
"If you give a person just enough rope, they'll hang themselves with it" , and that was part of the philosophy of my gameplay.
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Both - I want to know exactly what happened the round I left. This is mostly directed to Shawn, but I'd like to hear both of your views on what happen. -[glow=red,2,300]
After you left are during that round? ill assume you mean during the round before your vote off. Ok I was trying to see if I could trust you,and you said to me yourself... something like "Even if i wanted to ,right now i wouldn't be able to trust you because im not as close to you as i am shawn or jamie" or Something to that extent! And I knew that you voted against me,and tipped JR off, so to me that made me feel like you were trying to get me out! Wouldn't you take that the same way if i had done that to you,coach? So ANyways when shawn came to me saying you need to go cause of what a threat you are,i made it seem like it was his idea and that he was in control, and went along with it because you were my biggest threat then and i couldn't trust you at the time even though we had an opportunity to establish trust, but with the paranoia I have from being backstabbed in previous games I had to go with my gutt instinct and strategic thinking, and not my emotions.
Myself, Jamie and Erin all voted for you, Coach. And Shawn was the biggest Cheerleader to get you out, he went to Jamie and Erin to make sure you left, I knew Shawn wanted you gone and that would ultimately help my gone so i sat back quietly and let Shawn feel like he still had control. In Hindsight had me and you been able to trust each other then and there, we could've voted Shawn off , because he didn't have immunity before you left, and at F4 and F3 he was going to get voted off if he hadn't have won the challenges that he won. But he didn't know this at all.
And I find it very cowardly that he used us to vote you out,then tryed to cover it up to gain your vote by acting like he had nothing to do with it when he has everything to do with it. Thats a cowardly act , you are totally right about that coach! And I knew immediatly when he lied telling me jamie voted with you and not him, i amtched it up with jamie immediatly ,we caught shawn in that lie and were ready to vote him off at the final 4 along with erin ,because of what me and jamie matched up about shawns deviousness and lies. i lied to but I didnt do maliscious lies like he did, in my opinion. My lies were for strategie, some of his just seemed down right mean!
By the way shawn, Winning challenges is not strategy! You out performed me in challenges, and I out strategized you, by a pretty big margin too.
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Matty - Finally, I want to know what you think of Shawn and Kelly's alliance. Before Kelly was voted off, did you see them as two separate players, or an inseparable duo? -
I saw them as a inseparable unit from the moment I met them both, as where I needed to find a way to cut off Kelly, and get her out of the game if I was to get closer to Shawn and help use him to give me information and other stuff for me to work with to get where I am at now, and that's exactly what happened, along with many other things I did to guide myself down this path.
When Kelly left, I filled the void of Kelly for Shawn pretty much and was able to learn a lot more from him then before Kelly was out of the game. So Me and Erin's smart play to do what we did incase JR used the idol to get Kelly out, completely worked, and its a big reason that I am here today in the final 2!
[glow=red,2,300]((OOC: BTW I am all done with everything you asked except the Lie list, im finishing that now as we speak.))[/glow]
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